Miss Worldly

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  J.W.'s shut their minds to this teaching

  by The Searcher in

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  one of the "elephants in the room" which j.w.

  's will not and cannot question or discuss, is the org's dogma that a person's own death wipes out their sins!..

  when active, i asked two c.o.

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  Carla Ahh, the old question avoidance, answer deflection!! Are they taught that in bible study?
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  New "paradise" video preview? "Will you be there?"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife (unstuck) just saw a new 2-3 min video in her ex jw facebook feed, depicting a "paradise" scene preview.. it was complete with aerial shots and slow motion montages, with moving music.. scriptures were quoted across the screen, such as rev 21:3,4. i shazamed the music, and it came from another "worldly" album called "world of dreams.future world music" (you should see the song titles from that album!).

  is it an official wt video, or some private persons production?.

  if it is official, they seem to have once again resorted to desperate emotional manipulation tactics..... anyone else know?

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  No, I won't, thank goodness. I'm terrified of heights! 😬😂
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  Confused trying to understand JW GF or soon to be EX

  by James87 in

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  2. relationships

  i dont know where to start so why not at the beginning.

  i was seeing this girl and we hit it off great chemistry.

  it went from a physical to a deeper relationship.

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  James87,

  To be brutally honest, Yes, you are fighting a loosing battle. I know. I'm right there with you.

  Its easy to say walk away, not so easy to do, I know.

  I am afraid that until or if the veil of JW is lifted from you're GF by her own hand, there is not a damn thing you can do. Do you wait? Or walk? Who knows. Only you can make the decision. The more you fight, the harder the battle. I know.

  I am assuming that she has been told not to 'associate' with you. So in her mind she is fighting a battle of her own. The constant flip flopping is wearing and so frustrating, you think you're getting somewhere, then WHAM! The guilt kicks in.

  My way? For now, I wait. I listen. I talk. I'm there. I am the bad association.

  I have no advice for you because I am in a similar situation. But I send my best wishes. Love is a funny funny thing.
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  The Son of God? An Atheists view please.

  by Miss Worldly in

  1. jw
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  please bare with me on this.. firstly, i do not intend to cause offence to anyone.

  i apologise if what i am saying is blasphemous to some.

  i appreciate your views and mine may differ.

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  Miss Worldly

  Please bare with me on this.

  Firstly, I do not intend to cause offence to anyone. I apologise if what I am saying is blasphemous to some. I appreciate your views and mine may differ. I was just wondering, if you are an Atheist, for what reason do you think the bible was written?

  My view? I have come to two conclusions. 1- The bible was written to frighten or control men by men who wanted that control. The whole thing is made up stories to aid a monumental control of the people in a time when no other sources of information were available.

  Or 2- Jesus did exist. A man who either wanted power over people or had some sort of psychosis or other mental health problem that lead him to believe he was the son of the creator of all things. In a time when no one knew any better, people believed him, loved or feared him. Maybe even a hereditary condition passed on from his mother as she believed he was the son of God.

  If someone today believes they are the son of God or Satan or whoever, no one would believe them. They would be treated for mental illness.

  Thanks in advance for taking the time to read my uneducated random musings. Miss W.
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  Well, the Apostasy Accusations Begins...

  by Sorry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, it finally happened.

  the first time i have been called out for being an apostate.

  it started out innocently enough: my family and i were watching a tv show.

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  Ok Sorry, like the others have said, please be careful how you attack this. And do please remember they are still your parents. But......

  .... If Thanksgiving is so awful because it celebrates 'getting rid of the Indians' wiping them out? Know where I'm going with this? ....

  .....*scratches head .... Isn't that the same thing that JWs are waiting for? For a whole race to be wiped out? ?

  ..... Just saying.
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  This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .

  by Miss Worldly in

  1. jw
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  ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.

  sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.

  from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.

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  That is my point exactly Ucantnome. It would be devastating, But if the memory is wiped, how cruel is that! I really can't comprehend how this would be OK and to accept and believe it. How can anyone think it's ok to know you will not remember your loved ones?

  Flipper Thank you, I appreciate your brutal honesty! Haha! During my time lurking around here I have read a lot of your posts and admire your knowledge and I have learnt a lot.

  I do not fret over these things, I guess you could say I'm a complete heathen really! I do not believe in resurrection, I don't not believe in Armageddon, (If there ever was to be an Armageddon I do think it would be entirely man made and would not pick or choose who to save). I just wanted to get a JW perspective on what a JW 'truly' believes would happen in this situation. . . I have come to the conclusion that it's open to interpretation. I did not expect so many conflicting answers! Although, maybe I should have. As the WTS seems to flip flop constantly. . One hand not knowing what the other is doing? Miss W.
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  Hello - New Member

  by NotAnointed in

  1. jw
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  i just wanted to intoroduce myself.

  i have been lurking for some time and finally decided to register and hopefully contribute to this great forum.. i am in my mid 30s and have never been in the truth.

  my wife became a jw several years ago and since she is a (mostly) stay at home mom my two boys are also jws.

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  Miss Worldly

  Hey! Never-to-be JW here too! Welcome! 🤗
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  This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .

  by Miss Worldly in

  1. jw
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  ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.

  sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.

  from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.

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  Miss Worldly

  Thank you for all the replies.

  Prologos- Thank you, but I have absolutely no interest in becoming a JW. That will never, come hell, high water, pestilence or fire balls happen. I have seen the devastation it causes, both to physical health and mental health.

  I love your analogy of the male breast "structure without function" that does eloquently describe a lot of things I have witnessed (pardon the pun). I may well use that, if I may?

  I, sometimes unfortunately, have a thirst for knowledge. About things I find difficult to understand. This was one of those things that I could not get a clear answer on. And honestly? I'm still not sure! There seems to be a lot of difference in teachings, depending on how the question is asked. All designed, I suppose, to keep the 'ask-er' in line.

  Thank you again.
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  This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .

  by Miss Worldly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.

  sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.

  from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.

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  Thanks freegirl2006 and blonde.

  That makes me feel very sad that people are taught these things.

  Freegirl, I'm sorry about your Dad. I guess that teaching makes a lot of people feel like your Mom. It must have been a comfort to your Mom. x
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  This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .

  by Miss Worldly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.

  sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.

  from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.

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  Ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but I would like to know what sort of explanation the JW's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after Armageddon on earthly paradise.

  Sorry if I sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.

  So, what if a young married JW couple are living their life, waiting for the Big A, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies. From what I know, if a JW dies, that's it. They are dead, nothing. But come the great tribulation, they will be reserected.

  What if a few years down the line the surviving spouse (I can't bring myself to say 'mate') finds love again and remarries? As they would be allowed to do as they are scripturally free to marry.

  Now come the time of the Big A. Earthly paradise is restored. And so is the first spouse. A spouse that died believing that they and their marriage partner would be in paradise together, but now finds that their partner has remarried and loves the new person they married *awkward*.

  What would happen? Because they died do they have to forfeit the happiness they thought they were getting? Does the surviving spouse have to leave the second spouse? How would the second spouse feel about it? . . . I don't know, but it doesn't sound much like paradise for any of them.

  I would just like to hear a rational explanation for this dilemma. I can't seem to come up with any solution in my head. Apart from ones that wouldn't please Jehovah!

  Thanks in advance